Sunday, September 08, 2013

Living Outside the System

At the Redbridge Police Community Engagement Group (RPCEG) meeting last week we were told about a BBC documentary currently being filmed in Redbridge on the subject of Immigration. Here’s a synopsis of the production:

Fergal Keane (Reporter), John O'Kane (Producer) and Alex Niakaris (Assistant producer) are a BBC production team currently preparing a special documentary film on immigration to Britain for BBC2. It will be broadcast late 2013.

The special focus of this film is that Fergal will look at immigration to Britain from the perspective of immigrants. As well as examining the reasons why immigrants come here and giving that appropriate context and explanation, he will look at the mechanics of coming to Britain, finding work and setting up a home. He will attempt to understand just how difficult these things are to achieve when you may be an unskilled worker, with no working visa, fighting for leave to remain. And you might face the added obstacle of a sometimes unwelcoming host population and/or another immigrant grouping. All of this will be told primarily though the words of immigrants here.

Fergal and the team are interested in meeting people who may be classed as migrants. 'irregular' migrants', 'undocumented' or 'unresolved cases'. His objective is to spend some time with individuals or families who might give him an insight into what it is like to live through the uncertainty or difficulties associated with living outside the system in Britain.
You will be aware of the fuss created by the “Go Home” vans last month and on cue we have Rita Chadha from Ramfel as our guest speaker at our next coffee morning where we hope she will throw some light onto this difficult and controversial topic.

Meanwhile here’s some interesting reading from the Telegraph:

Immigration and the British economy: the awful truth is revealed


  1. twas it the bbc that i was watching the other day that a documenrty interviewer was in Germany where it was said they are screamming out for new immigrants as there are alot of vacancies.and how the German goverment is on a recruitment drive in Spain, so i think the BBC alreday know why they come here .........

  2. I admire the work of Fergal Keane and respect him as an experienced and articulate journalist. How about a piece from Fergal on immigration from the perspective of the indigenous community? He could, perhaps, look at pressure on school places, health service provision (especially maternity services), availability of housing and, of course, the cost of translating every single government and local authority communication into a plethora of languages so that every single person, no matter where he or she comes from, is fully informed about accessing evey single piece of national and local support available.

    As for the previous comment about Germany's apparent need for immigrants, I have always understood that Germany was the main opponent to the entry of Turkey into the European Union as the result would be a huge influx of Turks joining their family members in Germany and overwhelming the native population in many German cities.

    Immigration is the most significant issue of the moment NOT to be properly discussed due to an abject terror on the part of our leaders of appearing racist. This is not about race, it is about numbers and history, and the willingness of people who have contributed for many decades to the support systems of their country to extend those support systems to those who have contributed nothing. If we allow the situation to continue as it is, we will have no right to be surprised if a large number of our people rise up in protest at their government's continued demands on them to accommodate, and fund, ever growing numbers of incomers.

  3. Who exactly are the indigenous community that Anonymous would have interviewed in their version of the Fergal Keane documentary. I was wondering whether, despite being born here that, the fact my parents are immigrants would exclude me. However since I have Irish (and therefore celtic) ancestry would I have more right to be interviewed than those incomers with Roman, Jute, Angle, Saxon, Viking, and Norman forebears.

    1. According to Alex Salmond the Celts are foreigners here in England! So having both Scots and Irish ancestry (as well as English and French) I am not quite sure where that leaves me.

  4. Mark Santos' comment is deliberately ingenuous. Two of my grandparents came here from other European countries during the last half of 19th Century so with a huge stretch of the imagination you could regard me as an immigrant. However, when my two forbears came to England there was no National Health Service, no free education, no unemployment pay, no housing benefit etc. etc. All that the exisiting population was extending to the incomers was the right to work. This is no longer the case.

    In this country the working class has fought long and hard to establish a social security system which supports citizens who are sick, who fall on hard times or are disadvanted through no fault of their own. This same working population has ensured that they and their family members can access education and health care which is free at the point of delivery. The burden of financing this kind of social security falls far more heavily on the shoulders of the working classes than on the rich, who in any case largely opt out of the system.
    I question whether the extension of these benefits without charge to people coming from countries where no such struggle to establish them has taken place is fair to the people, chldren of the people and grandchildren of the people who have fought against huge vested interests to bring these benefits about. And in answer to his question, if he and his parents have paid their dues, then of course he is a member of the indigenous population.