Monday, August 27, 2012

Better Barkingside
- the £2million makeover

Here’s the man in charge:

Now that the grant from the Greater London Authority is secure the Council is getting on with the actions needed to get the project underway. Tenders have been invited from design consultants and the firms have been interviewed by Council staff and people from Design for London. JMP Consultants, working with the young architectural firm DK-CM, have been successful. As the Borough’s ‘Better Barkingside’ Project Manager, I am impressed with their skill and enthusiasm.

The larger part of the GLA grant is specifically for improvements around the Library and Leisure Centre area at the northern end of the High Street. However, there are smaller amounts paying for special events such as Fairlop Fair and Light Night and also some cash to improve the appearance of the High Street. This is quite limited so please don’t expect major enhancements to shop fronts.

It is fundamental to the Borough and the GLA that the project meets with the approval of local people and therefore Barkingside 21 has a vital part to play. The views of local Councillors, traders and residents will also be important and we want to reach as many people as possible. So – we are arranging a meeting to look at the early design proposals for late September and another to look at more detailed ideas in late November. Make sure these dates are in your diary!

Nigel Burch, Project Manager ‘Better Barkingside’

Outline Design Proposals
- Public Consultation

Thursday 27th September 2012
7:30-9:00pm

Presentation of Detailed Design
Ideas for Discussion

Thursday 29th November 2012
7:30-9:00pm

Both meetings to be held in
The Aldborough Room, Fullwell Cross library

We, Barkingside 21, feel that it is very important that it is not just us, the Councillors and High Street Traders who are involved in shaping this project. The really important views will be from those residents who shop in or use the High Street or those who would be potential users if things were a little better. So, if you have any views or suggestions please attend the meetings advertised or just submit them either to us or Nigel Burch at the Town Hall.

34 comments:

  1. And why do we need more consultants when we have just spent £75,000 on one,are why we are we wasting even more money having consultants on consultants.

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  2. we have already spent £75,000 on consultants, why are we doing it again, let our bloated Planning Service llford Town Centre.

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    1. Probably because the "Planning Service" could not plan a whelk stall.

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  3. Oh I agree with all of the above comments.....
    Consultants, consultants, consultants....... I’M a Consultant, can I have some of your money please – I may not be brilliant but at least I’ll come up with ideas more original, community-needed and practical than any of the pampered companies and Councillors that spend our Public Money. This Council should be ashamed of themselves.... but do you think they are? Of course not.... It’s snouts in the trough time again, lads!

    Before you know it (and before anything could get built)...the money’s all been spent!

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    1. Well, if you can do so much better, Ray, why haven't you put yourself forward as an Independent candidate at Borough elections?

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    2. Dear Judith,

      I walked away from all that political nonsense in about 200 (the year of the local elections), when I was approached by a Councillor from (let’s just say) one of the major parties, asking if I was interested in becoming a Councillor with the words (and I quote verbatim) “Don;t you worry; you stick with us, we’ll make sure you do well out of it”. [Oh why did I say ‘non’, what a fool I was].

      Indeed, after that experience, I did seriously consider standing as an Independent ‘Openly corrupt, completely bribe-able and probably blackmail-able‘ Candidate. My slogan would have been “What’s in it for me?”. The tragedy was that people said they would actually vote for me. It was summed up in the words from a constituent: “we know it goes on, but at least you’re open about it”.

      Does that answer your question, Judith

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    3. Good gracious, Ray. Local elections in 200? Life must have been interesting for you 1812 years ago......

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    4. Ray,

      We know it goes on. We have the evidence to prove it. But that does not mean they are all at it. We have a rule in this country – innocent until proven guilty.

      If you wish to question anything it should be the selection procedures and judgement of some local political parties, who are sometimes so desperate to find a candidate that they will invite anyone resembling a human being, including your good self, to stand.

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    6. So - either 1998 or 2002 elections?

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    7. Must've been 2002 then.... it was in that hiatus period after the end of the Fairlop Waters Public Inquiry (which was about October 2001?)

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  4. I have to point out that the engagement of Consultants (Architects) is a condition of the Grant. It is not a decision made by Redbridge Councillors or Officers, although Officers have been involved in selecting which Architects.

    It is also worth noting that the Project Manager is the same officer who managed the restoration of Valentines Mansion.

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    1. The final paragraph is thus far the sole point of hope in this long drawn out matter.

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  5. One has to ask the obvious question, WHY are the original consultants not being used, that has to be a more satisfactory and cheaper option, having already done the work.

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  6. 'They' wanted to get rid of the roundabout.
    I do remember some people thought it was a coup de genius. (Can't remember who, with hundred per cent accuracy!)
    The vast majority of people was aghast!

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  7. Anne, I think there's an error there. To the best of my knowledge, and I was at the public consultation meeting where it was discussed (I think last year) the bright, sparkling and intensely irritating young lady who presented these expensively obtained proposals to us suggested the Fullwell Cross roundabout be converted into TWO roundabouts!!!

    Howls of protest all round, and I think that was the nearest I've ever been to a lynching mob.

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    1. I seem to recall that when Councillor Mrs Huggett wass presenting proposals for the regeneration of what appeared to be "rundown and badly in need of a face lift" (and I think whe was referring to the High Street) some mention was made of building on the roundabout. I suppose to bring that up to date it would have to be the council's latest identified location for an academy......

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    2. In reply to Alfred: the proposal was to convert the large roundabout into THREE smaller roundabouts and create a "Town Square" area outside the Fairlop Oak. See here and here.

      I quite liked the idea.

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  8. Or a Swimming Pool?

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  9. Four...... and a partridge in a pear tree.

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  10. £75.000....could have asked aload of kiddies what they would do....seems it worked for the logo of 2012...
    why o why do planners/designers/consultants think thay know best and get payed and even worse be payed for such things...why change something that works so well (the roundabout) its a bit too far from all the shops in my opinion to be justified to become a square.I think that b-side is not what it used to be the shops sont sell the quality they used to and your not likely to go there if your looking for an outfit for a night out,I do fear it will becomne one big long supermarket selling foods from around the world.I do know that I will probably be hated for this but I still belive that the money would be better spent making a big one way system and creating one end as a pedestrian only shopping area,with good well known shops....

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  11. Do others realise that the roundabout is just that perfectly round! I once went round it 7 times in a perfect circle. No I hadn't been drinking. I hope it doesn't get changed.

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  12. julie b, as long as you were going anticlockwise and signalling properly, I don't suppose going round in circles is terribly problematic, apart from the air pollution being generated near a pollution measuring device (if it's still there)!
    Shame you did not notice somebody pinching the plaque on the wall of the Fairlop Oak.
    I love the roundabout too. That and the iconic library building with its lovely roof.

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    1. Anne, julie b didn't say she was driving a car. She could have been performing some sort of Pagan Dance ritual.

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  13. Anne, if Julie b was going anticlockwise round the Fullwell X roundabout, I'm rather glad I'm not living close by any more!

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  14. Just one question to those of you howling about them - without the consultants how would the detailed design of the scheme be completed?
    Or would we just hope the builders could do it from a few colour pictures?

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  15. It would be nice ifsome of the funds will go to regular cleaning of the street drains - it used to be routine but now they clog and back-up when it rains, especially around the roundabout - I am concerned about extensive flooding, but then again the underground car-park to the flats, hopefully, will take the excess!

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